Another no bid contract.
All right, good evening this is Tom McMasters. I figure I'll talk a little bit while I'm on my drive home.
What I'm going to talk about today is the
Aquatic Center contract between the YMCA and
It's what was discussed in the last work session and it looks like they're going to award it
to the YMCA at the next meeting.
There's a couple things that caught my attention to this. As you might know from
The write-up there's gonna be another no bid contract and that gets a lot of attention.
So that's one of the reasons I put it up up there.
Most of the reasons why I'm going to talk about this today is because
The council is again. Losing the opportunity
Good way to
Actually conduct business within the city.
Even if there wasn't a bid out there,
It makes good sense for them to go out and to get other people to to make an offer.
One of the points that I wanted to make
in this video
gone out last time and got
Dayton polls to to submit an offer
During the bidding process five years ago. With that
council should have in this debate gone and
what the contract would cost the city
compared to what It did cost the city with the contract that they actually had awarded to the YMCA. All right, so we had the opportunity
go ahead and make that comparison and they've chosen not to.
so that's one of the points that I
Will talk to or at least have in my head and the other thing that caught my attention
during this past meeting was that the city manager talked about all the work that the city has done on
the Aquatic Center over the past year year and a half that doesn't appear to be
tracked within the
Operational budget. So that when they talk about the city spending $11,000 -
from general fund to maintain the
Aquatic Center, they're not talking about all the extra money that they've put in
by the city performing maintenance itself.
So there's a couple of things about that particular item that
I'd like to talk about because generally when I look at the
Aquatic Center and I compared it to the old pool that was on fish burg.
I've always said that the city was doing a really good
job in providing the service for
Its residents with the Aquatic Center compared to the pool. And if you just look at the difference between what those amenities were
Then you would know. Then add on to that that the city was spending
$20,000 a year in
additional funds to maintain that pool because it was in bad shape.
It had a lot of leaks and they didn't charge very much to get in. So
as residents it was costing about $20,000 in general fund money
to maintain that pool.
when you talk in the aquatic center
$11,000 or so this past year.
You know that's less than
what it was costing to have the old pool.
And you certainly have a much nicer facility for residents to go to.
Now the cost to get into the Aquatic Center compared to the cost get a pool, is different.
You take that into consideration. Some people may not think it's a great value but in general for a taxpayer that
wouldn't use either of those things. It seems to me that it was better to have
the Aquatic Center over the pool.
we've gotten into the situation where
the city is providing a lot of the maintenance for
Aquatic Center and
they're not going out and tracking those expenditures. They're not charging. They're not showing it on the books.
So you're not doing an apples to apples comparison again. If they've spent
twenty thousand dollars in man-hours or twenty thousand dollars in
Actually equipment probably would get tracked one way or another.
It might be hard to find,
but if they went out and bought paint
somewhere that paint should be shown in the city budget as a pool expense. but
if they put a man hours into the aquatic center, and they have
$20,000 man-hours it
may not be very easy to find.
So you don't know how the comparison goes anymore. So I
was kind of disappointed that your council members did not
tell the city manager that it was required that as part of the evaluation of the Aquatic Center.
He has to do a better job with reporting the
cash that's being spent on some of these other things outside of
YMCA. So that's one of the things that I talked about. The other things that I
talked about is process. Why you go through a bidding process or at least
ask other companies to tell you how much it would cost to run the facilities. Alright so last time.
One of the trepidations I have with that system right there, is last time, I was able to get Dayton pool to offer a bid
our city manager was upset that
he had to evaluate two different bids.
Where we had a pretty good relationship with
after that not so much and so we lost some of the services that that company provided,
simply because they chose to participate and offering a bid. But the main point that I wanted to talk about is
council and their
loss of an opportunity to be able to judge whether
they're making good decisions or not.
Five years ago, we had Dayton Pool put in a proposal and we had the YMCA put in a proposal.
The Dayton pool proposal was a firm fixed price.
So, you know how much they were going to charge you each year for the services that they were going to provide. You didn't know
how much the YMCA was going to provide because
the way that they did it is, if they used more
Chlorine, they would charge more money. Whereas the Dayton
pool told you up front what it was going to charge.
Because we picked
The YMCA, you can go back and compare
what would it cost to have Dayton pool to what it actually did cost for the YMCA.
You didn't have a single member of council go to
your city manager and say, "hey
how do those compare? Did we do better by picking the YMCA
then we would have with Dayton pool or not." That just seems to be
kind of a foul
as far as I'm concerned, if they are not going to go back there and do that comparison and
They have chosen to do a no-bid contract to the YMCA this time.
So you don't know five years from now when they go ahead and
do a re-compete, how the city is doing compared to what it would have done.
What the other providers could have provided in that term. So I
again call foul with the way the council has decided that it's going to proceed
awarding the contracts.
So I guess that generally sums up where I was going with this video and
Thank you for your attention.
Yes, ask from your council, thanks a lot.
Here is the Council discussion from the Dec 3, 2019 work session.